FOUR PATROL VESSELS FOR ROYAL NETHERLANDS NAVY
SCHELDE NAVAL SHIPBUILDING AWARDED WITH THE CONTRACT FOR FOUR PATROL VESSELS FOR ROYAL NETHERLANDS NAVY On 20 December 2007, the Netherlands' Defence Materiel Organisation (DMO) and Sch...Read More
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I disagree that the ship is too big. The area of operations of these vessels will be the Dutch colonies in the Caribbean. These are subject to hurricanes at their strongest. Like US Coast Guard...
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The reason why I think the OPV is too big is that it's about 30% larger than its peers designed for the same role. OPV: 3,750 tons BAM: 2,500 tons Floreal: 2,950 tons While BAM is still a paper...
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Comparison: Buque Accion Maritima (BAM; AE) vs Patrouilleschip (PS; RNLN) vs Floréal (F730; MN) NOTE: yaku yuku destroyed my lay-out, making the tables somewhat harder to understand. HULL:...
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I'll try to make an aligned table for you - not sure if I got the distribution of light MGs between the various designs right, though. BAM (AE) PS (RNLN) Floréal (MN) HULL Displacement (f.l.) ...Read...
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Good comparison E2R. Really good. Regards.
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e2r - great post. To complete some missing information: the BAM will have Link 11 & 22, IFF, ESM equipment, chaff launchers, an optronic director and active & passive stabilization systems....
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esp49129 wrote: The reason why I think the OPV is too big is that it's about 30% larger than its peers designed for the same role. OPV: 3,750 tons BAM: 2,500 tons Floreal: 2,950 tons OK, if it's too...
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Mark F wrote: OK, if it's too big what capability do you want to give up to make it smaller? The helicopter? The multi-function radars? Some of the guns? The communications datalinks? A few thousand...
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Wow! Very complete, overview E2R! The notion that an OPV was too big because it is bigger than its contemporaries is not a new one. In the late 1970's the US Coast Guard decided to replace the...
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There's a significant tradeoff between the BAM and the Dutch OPV: the number of platforms a user can afford. Roughly, you can operate 3 BAMs with the same financial and manpower ressources you need to...
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Edit #1: As I previously posted, I would like to see the BAM gain a couple hundred tons to increase its endurance, but it would still be the Spanish Toyota to the Dutch Cadillac "Autonomía...
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santi wrote: Well, the range for BAM is quoted in the Spanish Armada site in an esoteric way but it means: 3.500 nm at 15 kn (transit to the patrol area) + 12 days at 6 kn (=1728 nm, patrolling, may...
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Joris Janssen Lok has a new article on the Ares blog around the content of the mast: Radical Departure It states that the mast has a non-rotating IFF (so no lack of IFF, esp49129!) plus a whole lot of...
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About BAM: -who is launching customer? I have seen news from 2005 that the detailed design for Spain would be started in that year and delivery to the navy was scheduled for 2008. Is the first already...
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Just for the sake of illustrating the comparison between the NL OPV, BAM and Floreal, take a look: Regards.
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MConrads, Thanks - great drawings. For a second I thought the scale was wrong, because the Dutch OPV sure looks BIG. But I checked the Dutch drawings (which you probably used) and you've got it...
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Your wish is my command. I checked the hight issue and I think it checks out correctly. Same is true for the Helicopter. But thanks for the detailed look :-)))) Regards.
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Well, even without changing the above-water drawing, it looks taller. Only to be expected, as the eye looks at the whole pic, not just the gray bits.
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MConrads wrote: Your wish is my command. I checked the hight issue and I think it checks out correctly. Same is true for the Helicopter. But thanks for the detailed look :-)))) Regards. Thanks a lot!...
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Keel for First Patrol Ship Laid Down (Source: Dutch Ministry of Defence; issued Dec. 8, 2008) (Issued in Dutch only; unofficial translation by defense-aerospace.com) The keel of the first unit,...
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